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    • January 1, 2020 4:49 PM EST
      • Post Falls, Idaho
         
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      Using the HO couplers makes it so you can you can move the wheels out further that's for sure because they fit nicely between the wheels. I am going to mess with the O scale shorties but if that still doesn't work then maybe go the HO route.

       

      As to picking on your post. Sorry man, what can I say, I just can't get into 4 wheel cars. Again no judgement if its your thing. Someone has to dance with the ugly girls. . .. Please take this in the good natured ribbing its meant in. I really have no judgement for what others do. I am sure 99% of what I do people look at me like I have a thumb growing out of my forehead. We all have to do what makes us happy, we re the ones playing with our trains, that kinda makes us all a little odd. . .grown men obsessed with toys.

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    • January 1, 2020 4:52 PM EST
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      Devon Sinsley said: Sorry man, what can I say, I just can't get into 4 wheel cars.

      Oh well, I'll still admit in public that I know you.

    • January 1, 2020 5:04 PM EST
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      Wait, you don't have a thumb growing out of your forehead, Devon? Weird.

       

      I went and took a few measurements of my hoppers, just in case it is useful to you. I was thinking 1:24 scale when I built it so you can convert these using 1/2" to a foot. That means these are really short: 18 feet. That turns out to be perfect for the ore loading area in the mine.

       

       

      The 1.5" difference between overall (wood, not counting couplers) length means that the platforms on each end are 3/4" each.

       

       

      Sorry I didn't annotate this, but the height of the wood part of the car is 3.25".

       

      Note that I'm also using Kadee short couplers. Clearance there is no problem based on the 2.5" distance from the car end to the coupler centers.

       

      IMHO I made these cars a bit too wide. They are the widest thing on my pike so far, particularly when you add the brass door close/open mechanisms which adds another 1/4"  on each side (or so).

       

      [edited to add the height of the car]

      This post was edited by Jim Rowson at January 1, 2020 6:31 PM EST
    • January 1, 2020 6:38 PM EST
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      Jim, I really like those cars. And I have some options now. With the short couplers I can move the wheels out. Also I was intrigued by the side dump of these cars and mine were going to be belly dump. But if I go side dump then the trucks can be closer together as well as closer to the ends if I wish like you have them on that car. And with side dump it would work better for the concentrator that these will dump into. So that's a win win. Shorten the overall height of the hopper and narrow the whole car a bit and if need be lengthen it and I think I will have it. I will use those pictures and basically divide by two the dimensions you have give or take.

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    • January 1, 2020 7:49 PM EST
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      And you have a real nice, detailed build log for reference too. 

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    • January 1, 2020 8:04 PM EST
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      Just in case, here's my build log [link]

       

    • January 1, 2020 9:22 PM EST
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      Jim, I love those ore cars. I plan to build a few of those here soon. Sorry, Devon, didn’t mean to derail your thread. Back to the regularly scheduled programming 

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    • January 1, 2020 9:30 PM EST
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      Jim,

       

      I am pretty sure I am safe in assuming that you will consider it a complement if I copy these cars in half the size. They surely are perfect. Better than what I had in my mind being side dump instead of belly dump. You shared them with me before and I forgot about them. But they really are just about the right deal for the car I am after.

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    • January 1, 2020 10:07 PM EST
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      I will be honored. Go for it.

    • January 2, 2020 6:32 AM EST
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      Devon, my question. If the trucks are that far back from the car ends, the swing on the curves would be rather large, especially on tight curves. Have you tried running the cars coupled together through your tightest curve?

      One of the modules in the NMRA group has unusable sidings, because the curves are so tight, that cars cannot negotiate the curves while coupled to another car.

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    • January 2, 2020 7:58 AM EST
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      Good point David. Another very good reason to use the short coupler and move the trucks out board.

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    • January 2, 2020 3:32 PM EST
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      I would hate to know that you spent countless hours scratch-building some beautiful cars that you discover that you cannot use because the overhang is too much on the curves.

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