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    • December 5, 2019 5:06 PM EST
    • Eric Schade said:

      So, do you see the ties flashimg by when you flush?

      On this occasion you could see the ties (sleepers)

      https://orr.gov.uk/news-and-blogs/press-releases/2018/south-devon-railway-fined-after-boy-falls-through-missing-toilet-floor

       

    • December 5, 2019 12:26 PM EST
    • The logic of that time  . . .

      The restored railways in the UK make extensive use of BR Mk 1 coaches, which were available cheap as BR invented the Mk2, etc.  The Mk 1 toilets do flush with water, but on to the track. If the UK Health & Safety guys decide that they have to start using holding tanks, like a modern coach, the expense will kill the restored railways.

       

    • December 5, 2019 11:12 AM EST
    • Guys;

       

      The logic of that time was that the effluents would be spread in a very thin layer, due to the speed of an express train.  Once on the ties and ballast. the sun's UV rays would eliminate any germs.  Of course, those conditions were not present at a station stop, hence the sign.  Today's chemical toilets are a much better solution - just so long as they get emptied and refreshed regularly.

       

      Best, David Meashey

    • December 5, 2019 9:26 AM EST
    • Eric Schade said:

      So, do you see the ties flashimg by when you flush?

      I was a docent at the B&ORR Museum for a while, and if we had a school party I would gross them out by showing them the pipe from the underside of the toilet on the Royal Blue coach,

    • December 5, 2019 5:25 AM EST
    • Eric Schade said:

      So, do you see the ties flashimg by when you flush?

      When I told my dad that I saw that, he insisted that I didn't see that.

    • December 5, 2019 12:07 AM EST
    • That's cool, Cliff!

    • December 5, 2019 1:29 PM EST
    • Very cool, cars remind me of the Mt Lower funicular that used to be above my town.

    • December 5, 2019 12:05 PM EST
    • Watching the video I sure did not see 60 degrees, with people sitting in both orientations one side should have fallen out of their seats!

       

      On Wikipedia, it states a max 22% grade...  which gives you 12.41 degrees, much more in keeping with what you see in the video.

       

      Cool to see a modern funicular though, nice and fast.

       

      Greg

    • December 5, 2019 9:42 AM EST
    • How about some underground Funiculars?  Istanbul, Turkey, has 2, and this one is extremely modern.  It is about 600 meters on a slope of 60 degrees under the road up the hill to Taksim Sq.

       

    • December 4, 2019 2:11 PM EST
    • John,

       

      I finally had the chance to look at this!  Magnificent from so many perspectives - engineering, design, modeling, etc.  After watching the videos and reading the following threads, it gave me good flashbacks to liberty call in Hong Kong and the Peak Tram!

       

      Aloha,

      Eric

    • December 4, 2019 10:59 AM EST
    • This is very interesting thread and the modeling is excellent. When I was young, I rode the “Inclines” in Pittsburgh when I would visit my grandparents. The last one I rode was at Six Flags Magic Mountain in September.  I’ve also ridden this one https://youtu.be/dk3YXaRWxOk in Park City, UT that is fairly new and rather unique in the fact the track angle is not constant and IRC the cabin rotates to keep it level. 

      Another funicular readers may find interesting is the Otis Elevating Railway that was in the Catskill Mountains of NY near where I grew up http://www.catskillarchive.com/otis/otis-15.htm I believe this was a 3 rail system where the cars shared the middle rail and passed halfway. Also of interest in that railway was they had the ability to haul narrow gauge railroad cars on the incline to be transferred between the two railroads at the top and bottom. 

    • December 4, 2019 1:30 AM EST
    • This is very cool! Excellent work.  

       

      A lot of old mines used funiculars aka inclines to transport ore from the mine down to an ore bin at a lower elevation. Sadly none that I know of are still in existence. I've only seen ruins. I've always wanted to include one on my layout but I don't have room for it.

       

    • December 3, 2019 8:48 PM EST
    • I think for today's consumer it would need to be a double wide so there wouldn't be waiting for the next car. The old way was when times were slower.

      You had to wait for your up car to go back down so you could get in when  your down car came up.

    • December 3, 2019 2:57 PM EST
    • Wow!  What a great find.  I had no idea any of these existed.  Wouldn't it make a fantastic restoration project for the island!  It would be profitable too.  Most remaining funiculars are big money makers from tourists.  Thanks for that great video with the excellent old photos of it.  What a rarity!

    • December 5, 2019 5:27 AM EST
    • It is so cool. I enjoyed the experience.

    • December 5, 2019 12:01 AM EST
    • So cool to see a locomotive (replication or otherwise) from that period in operation!

    • December 4, 2019 6:45 PM EST
    • Carson City/Virginia City is a cool area for mining artifacts and the V&T RR.  Wife and I rode that many times back when they first started running, then it was only down to the blocked tunnel and back.  One day we bought an all day ticket and got four round trips riding in the cab because no one else signed up for a cab ride. Lots of fun. Somewhere in my train junk I have some pictures of the old stone V & T buildings before they tore them down in the name of progress.

    • December 4, 2019 3:22 PM EST
    • Hi Ray, and you bet, it's certainly worth at least one visit! The V&T ride from Carson to Virginia City & back is great, and you have a couple hours to knock around VC in between. Here's the specifics. The "wine train" down into Carson River canyon is nice too, just a lot shorter trip. 

       

      Then there's the NV State RR Museum in Carson, they do steam ups some weekends during the main season.

       

      Cliff

    • December 4, 2019 1:38 AM EST
    • Someday I need to get over to that end of Nevada and see the V&T train running.