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    • January 11, 2020 1:40 PM EST
    • Durango's drying stove.   Generally compressed air was used to push the sand up into the tower, that is what the lines are you see coming out of the drying house roof into the top of the bin (bottom photo)




    • January 11, 2020 10:40 AM EST
    • Little tiny mice with little tiny buckets...............

    • January 11, 2020 9:50 AM EST
    • How does a 1880's sand drying house and tower work. You have a big bin of sand then a house that has some sort of drying stove or oven. Then how does the sand get from that up into the tower in 1880? did they use blowers?

    • January 10, 2020 9:04 PM EST
    • And it's not too far from the Western Pacific Railroad Museum in Portola.  Start out early and kill three birds with one stone!

    • January 10, 2020 6:55 PM EST
    • The Keddie Wye is only about 15-20 miles from the Williamson Loop, both very doable in the same day trip.

    • January 10, 2020 3:06 PM EST
    • I'm surprised nobody mentioned The Georgetown Loop

      Image result for georgetown loop


    • January 10, 2020 1:57 PM EST
    • Other than the Tehachapi and Williams Loops, the site in California that would be neat to model is the Keddie Wye up in Plumas County, through the Feather River Canyon between Oroville and Portola, California.  This section of the main line runs along the river along sharp and rocky cliffs that were not only difficult to survey, navigate, and build, but also equally as hard to maintain. Over the years I've seen it modeled in HO, but not "O" or "G" scale.




    • January 10, 2020 12:38 AM EST
    • Interesting. If my rough estimates are right the Williams loop is about 1200 feet in diameter, which at 1:24 scale is about 50 feet. That's a big loop to model without serious, serious compression. My entire layout is about 60 feet long by maybe 15 feet wide.  And my end loops are 12' diameter, so 1/4 of this size. Mine do cross over, but the grade is just a bit extreme in comparison... Is my math right? The prototype circumference is pi * d so the length of track is 1200 * 3.14 or about 3800 feet, divided by 24 that's 157 feet. My 12' diameter circles result in about 38 feet. So the grade is a bit more than 4x in my model than on the prototype (assuming a similar height difference at crossover). Whew! No wonder my model looks a bit steep. Good thing I run geared locos and short trains...


      I looked it up [link] and it appears the Williams Loop is a 1% grade. My pike rises about 1 foot over a 38 foot run which is a 2.6% grade so I'm off somewhere in my math. Oh well...


      [edited to add the grade comparison]


    • January 10, 2020 12:16 AM EST
    • Cool. I'm familiar with the Tehachapi Loop but never heard of the Williams Loop before. Here it is on Google Maps:





    • January 10, 2020 7:48 PM EST
    • If any of you coming to ECLSTS this year are interested in railroad history and abandoned railroad grades, the old Northern Central used to run through Timonium/Cockeysville. In fact, the MTA light rail runs right past the fairgrounds (and Cow Palace) on the old NC right of way. In an earlier time, people could travel to the fairgrounds on the NC. The light rail line uses the NC from Baltimore to slightly north of the fairgrounds, where it branches off for Hunt Valley. If you choose to stay at the Embassy Suites, you could actually ride the light rail to and from the show!!


      Of interest is an old PRR freight depot that is still standing in Cockeysville on the abandoned portion of the NC. If any of you would be interested in seeing it, it's probably 10 min from the fairgrounds. 


      For more information on the local railroad history, check out Todd's railfan guide at


    • January 6, 2020 7:50 PM EST
    • This past weekend 1-4-20 we rode on the Conway Scenic RR's steam in the snow excursion train out of North Conway in NH.   It was a cold damp day but we braved the elements to witness several run bys of this special train.  You gotta love that whistle. 



    • January 6, 2020 7:41 PM EST
    • That is pretty cool and a great way to keep the trains rolling.  Diversify as they say in the article is the key to success. 

    • January 6, 2020 11:28 AM EST
    • Greg Elmassian said:

      I like how you did the window frames on the cars, very nice appearance.



      Greg - it is remarkable what one can do with a well focused laser beam!


    • January 5, 2020 4:26 PM EST
    • I like how you did the window frames on the cars, very nice appearance.



    • January 5, 2020 11:54 AM EST
    • John Carmichael said:

      I've updated the Funicular Modeling Tips page to include important tips on cable management (track pulleys, cable guards and hooks), controller car magnet, and car lighting, and car addition and removal.  (see Tips page above)

      John - I just took the time to read through all of this thread and to view the videos - what a wonderful job you have done.  And I may just be inspired to give a similar project a try.  It has been on my list for some time and this may be the push I need to get moving

      Thanks for sharing!



      PS FYI, I have built a number of HO, O and G-Scale inclines over the years - some info is here 

    • December 29, 2019 4:30 PM EST
    • This is of course a prime example of modelling a type of railroad; steel wheel on steel rail. and takes a lot of modelling skill to accomplish. By showing how it is accomplished is great for those that often wondered how it was done...THANK YOU GREATLY.

          Fred Mills

    • January 4, 2020 10:39 AM EST
    • Ray,

      Are you thinking of the Boeing cars that took a dip? That was in Montana along the MRL, Clark Fork River.



    • January 4, 2020 12:45 AM EST
    • I seem to recall there was a similar accident in that same general area a few years ago.

    • January 3, 2020 12:17 AM EST
    • Yep crew was lucky. Taking a dip into a river or body of water was in the top 5 "oh st**, hope it doesn't happen to me" column.


      From what I've read, the cab filled with water and a window had to be smashed in. The crew waited something like 45-60 minutes for help.

    • January 3, 2020 12:07 AM EST
    • A rockslide pushed this BNSF loco into the river.  When the rescue guys got there, the crew had shut down the diesels, and climbed out of the cab and were waiting on top of the locomotive, still in the river.