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    • March 14, 2020 8:31 PM EDT
    • Thank's Ken for taking the "outhouse" with the show canceled was not sure who I would see then I saw you wish I could have talked more but had a member that wanted to be on the road by noon and I had a bunch of cars on his mods to get off.

      Richard B.

      Oh was a long ride from Ma. so you may have house keeping check inside don't think any TP left.

    • March 14, 2020 5:43 PM EDT
    • Great job on the trip report Cliff!

      thanks for getting those items for me, where would we be without our enabler buddies??

       

      Jerry B

    • March 14, 2020 9:17 AM EDT
    • Fred Mills. said:

      ….Great to see you all had a good time, in the spirit of "Drag & Brags" of the past.  

          I'd like to be introduced to "Ray" from Toronto, if someone could send me a way of communicating with him....PLEASE.

             I'm sure I know the person on the left in the second picture...refresh my memory, with his name...please.

       Thank you Cliffy, for your pictures and report.

        Fred Mills

       

      You bet, Fred. John is the guy you're referring to I think. He says he's been to your place a few times. John's from Burlington, Ray's from Hamilton. I'm afraid that's all I know; but they've been coming to the D&B for 3-4 years now.

    • March 14, 2020 8:00 AM EDT
    • Lou Luczu said:

      So if the shirts don't have dates, they can reuse them for next year!

       

      Would someone please post a picture of the shirt?

      Thenkyew

      Not as fancy as some of previous shirts, but it'll do.

      And I had this returned to me for safe keeping.

       

       

    • March 13, 2020 11:49 PM EDT
    • ….Great to see you all had a good time, in the spirit of "Drag & Brags" of the past.  

          I'd like to be introduced to "Ray" from Toronto, if someone could send me a way of communicating with him....PLEASE.

             I'm sure I know the person on the left in the second picture...refresh my memory, with his name...please.

       Thank you Cliffy, for your pictures and report.

        Fred Mills

    • March 13, 2020 11:44 PM EDT
    • Post deleted, due to it seeming too whiney in retrospect. 

       

      PS: The hotel did a midnight fire drill last night, which was annoying. But no huge deal; and they gotta do what they gotta do.

       

       

    • March 13, 2020 11:42 PM EDT
    • oops

       

       

    • March 13, 2020 10:58 PM EDT
    • The official Drag & Brag Report

       

      By default, the D&B was held at the Embassy Suites bar-restaurant. If you were paying attention to my prior posts, the ES atrium is under reconstruction, so we held the grand event here. 

       

      I was gratefully surprised that many people attended. Not the usual LSC crowd, but kindred spirits who've attended the D&B in the past, and still did this time. 

       

      [this line edited after i remembered other things] Be that as it may, several objects of Drag were offered. Jason Gallaway brought one of his ingot flats, of which he had quite a string running on the Big Green layout, and which have real aluminum ingots he cast himself. Another gentleman (didn't catch his name) brought a group of (propane?) tanks he had 3d printed. 

        

       

      I rang a glass, and did a brief presentation on the Southwick Turbine Windmill. After that, good ol' Ray, from Toronto, gave a wonderful talk on his locomotive and the intricacies of its operation in its mill in Canada. 

       

       

       Much eating occurred, from the free Hors d'oeuvre to the big ticket menu items. It was nice to eat what we wanted and when.

       Much conversation took place, some of it railroad related, some not, but all good...

       

       

      We were well served, by a wonderful lady named LaChelle. Fred, this is your new Donna.

       

       

      Wish y'all had been there, 

      ===:>Cliffy

    • March 13, 2020 6:54 PM EDT
    • So if the shirts don't have dates, they can reuse them for next year!

       

      Would someone please post a picture of the shirt?

      Thenkyew

    • March 13, 2020 6:40 PM EDT
    • Jon Radder said:
      Ken Brunt said:

      They were starting to break down about 11 when I left. But, me, Cliff, Dave Maynard, and Dave Marconi all had fun...............

      (and I did buy a shirt)

       

      Maybe you should have bought them all and kept them for a few years to sell at 3 times the price

      Don't laugh, Jon, cause that woulda worked. They don't have the date of the show on them like the others did. 

    • March 13, 2020 4:34 PM EDT
    • Well, that was the shortest show I've ever attended. Literally 3 hours long. Somehow, I still ended up buying something...

    • March 13, 2020 2:32 PM EDT
    • Ken Brunt said:

      They were starting to break down about 11 when I left. But, me, Cliff, Dave Maynard, and Dave Marconi all had fun...............

      (and I did buy a shirt)

       

      Maybe you should have bought them all and kept them for a few years to sell at 3 times the price

    • March 13, 2020 1:27 PM EDT
    • Here's a bit more of a report.

       

      Thanks to Hollywood's suggestion, he, Dave Maynard, Ken Brunt, and myself (behind the camera) had a great breakfast at the Nautilus diner near the fairgrounds. Here we are, just showing up -- proof that LSC held its end up at the show! 

       

       

      Just before this, Dan from Star explained what I posted on prior: that the show was officially closed, but they were letting folks in at no charge to walk the halls and buy stuff. No MD officials there, all was relaxed. And the great news (as I understand it -- and I'm not an official source) is that since MD closed the show, MD will refund the facility rental. 

       

      The center hall was very full of vendors, and a few vendors had to be placed in the other (vast) layout hall.  Here's two stitched-together shots of the vendor hall.

       

       

      And a pan of the layout hall. Keep in mind that this hall is a lot larger than York's, so the layouts didn't fill it. Room for growth!

       

       

      Aikenback Live Steamers had a full team there, and all the layouts were running.

       

       

      For next year, there is no natural alcove-ish place, except to either side of the concession stand in the rear of the center vendor hall. I neglected to get shots of this, so this is only an indication of where.

       

       

      However, there's a nifty little shed, right outside the main door, that I might inquire into... 

       

       

      I heard from a couple of vendors that things were packing up around noon. And at 11:30, the layout packup was well underway.

       

       

      I'm glad that quite a few folks showed up and bought stuff. There were some great deals, and not so great deals, the usual mix. I bought some stuff for myself and Jerry B.; and there was a steady trickle of purchases walking out the door -- that is, between the hours of 9 and 11:30, when I bailed.   

       

      The negatives go without saying, such as the downturn in the hobby in general, key vendors no longer participating, challenges with a new venue (no small thing), loss of traditional alcove & D&B space, and now this shut-down that no one saw coming. Also MD saying the show was cancelled at the last minute, which surely turned many away. Not to mention all the costs that vendors & clubs spent in time and travel, and their disappointing outcomes from all that effort.  

       

      But some positives need pointing up. The doors were opened to the public, and against all the information to the contrary, the public did show up and did buy. MD will refund the rent fees. Star did a fantastic job handling this change in venue, and helping vendors and clubs make the switch, and to show up in force. All the pieces were in place for a great show, and that's saying a lot.

       

      Going forward, now that the venue change is over, and assuming virus threats aren't a factor again, I think there's a lot of hope for the show, and for our presence there. We in LSC have options in setting up our own alcove (e.g., a couple of canopy tents in the layout hall). We can also pick our own hotel (from the many available), which best serves the purposes of the Drag & Brag and our membership in general. 

        

      Tonight, the Drag & Brag will happen somehow. I know of three others who'll be there (at the Embassy Suites bar-restaurant), and that's fine. Per Ric's advice, we will be winging it. If more show up, that's all the better! 

       

       ===:>Cliffy

       

       

    • March 13, 2020 8:44 PM EDT
    • I was referring to the overalls! good to know it will be a black mask, with the overalls you should stand out!

      Bob. Hope you still show up looking forward to meeting you there too, and anyone else on here!

    • March 13, 2020 7:42 PM EDT
    • Pete Lassen said:

      Dan, you should be easy to spot , I will be watching for you there!!!

      For reference in case I'm wearing a mask

       

    • March 13, 2020 7:13 PM EDT
    • Plan is to go, but not sure how things will work out with the virus. When I start hearing the Navy Base is preping for an extended closure.....

    • March 13, 2020 6:30 PM EDT
    • That's funny, at the Oregon convention, every one I visited did it all themselves and we were treated to many different techniques for roadbed, planting, etc.

       

      Wait, I remember one guy who had his elevated layout made for him, but he did all his plants.

       

      Greg

    • March 13, 2020 3:55 PM EDT
    • Dan, you should be easy to spot , I will be watching for you there!!!

    • March 13, 2020 2:44 PM EDT
    • I'm still planning on going as I have never actually seen a garden layout.  Been watching the flight prices drop today!

    • March 13, 2020 2:18 PM EDT
    • FWIW, I received an email today from the Hilton chain saying that due to this virus, and as long as you cancel 24 hours in advance, there would be no charge.