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    • May 14, 2018 7:56 PM EDT
    • Fairymead is NOT huge and, though similar, is not the same locomotive as Chloe.  According to Accucraft's stats the 4-4-0 you asked about is 7.68" high, 4.13" wide and 26.8" long but it has a tender.  the Fairymead is 7.5 " high, 5.6" wide and 13.6" long.  Compare those figures.  

      You don't seem to grasp the concept of a small prototype made large to make the track appear to be a smaller gauge.  That is one of the weird aspects of large scale modeling.  Everything from 1:32 for standard gauge to 1:13 for 2' gauge on the same 45mm track.

      1:24 scale on S gauge're kidding right?  Manufacturers are in business to make money.  How many would buy that combination.

      So tell us what you are trying to achieve and more meaningful advice could be given.  Live steam locomotives in our scales are made mostly in 32mm and 45mm gauge with some in Ga 3.

    • May 14, 2018 6:45 PM EDT
    • 7/8ths scale makes little engines seem huge when compared to other large scale engines running on 45mm track.   Just wait till the forth coming 0-4-4T Maine Portland Forney from Accucraft comes out.  Its big!   

    • May 14, 2018 5:48 PM EDT




      The cute little LGB Chloe 3 foot gauge at 1:22.5 scale is the same locomotive as the Accucraft Fairymead two foot gauge at 7/8ths scale.

      It will be interesting to see some photos.
      From viewing the Scot Lawrence drawing, the Accucraft Fairymead is huge.
      Are there any manufacturers of 2 foot Gauge locomotives at 1/24 Scale to operate on S Gauge track?


    • May 14, 2018 4:36 PM EDT
    • You might find this useful:



      The two locos bottom right are problably pretty close to the size of the Fairymead and the 4-4-0.

    • May 14, 2018 11:58 AM EDT
    • My fairymead is 8inches tall, 5 1/2 inches wide and about 14 inches long not counting my wooden pilot which is another 3 inches.


    • May 14, 2018 9:33 AM EDT
    • I dont have the Fairymead but have the 4-4-0 and when comparing the two the Fairymead is large compared to the accucraft 4-4-0.  Eric Shade has one try and see if he can get you a photo.

    • May 13, 2018 7:34 PM EDT
    • I checked to see if any of my locos matched the size of the 1:20.3 4-4-0 for photo purposes and came up short.

      How about taking some cardboard and making up some boxes that match the sizes of the locos in question?  It would be interesting to see the size of the prototype Fairymead compared to the Baldwin loco you are looking at modeling.  Those dimensions should be available from the sources to which you were directed.

      One thing to remember is that at the scale of 1:13.7 representing 2' gauge on 45mm track the locos and trains tend to be large models of small prototypes.  When I exhibit my portable live steam track it is interesting to see viewers reaction when I tell them that my 7/8 DeWinton would fit inside the oval and that Fairymead and Decauville are slightly larger.   My portable track is 13' x 17' with 6' and 5' radius curves on which many live steamers can run.

    • May 13, 2018 3:36 PM EDT



      Can someone post a photograph of a Bachmann, or an Accucraft, 1:20.3 4-4-0 sitting next to an Accucraft 7/8ths scale Fairymead?

      I would like to get an idea of just how physically large the Accucraft Fairymead actually is.



      Thank you,





    • May 13, 2018 4:04 PM EDT
    • "Robin" was built in 1994 by Prescott Engineering in the UK.  There is an article about it in Marc Horovitz's Sidestreet Bannerworks Loco of the Month,  November 2009.

      The short answer to your question is that many live steam locomotives can run slowly.  It is a matter of balancing fire, throttle and load.  The Fairymead you ask about in another thread is one that I have experience with.  As you would expect, Shays and other geared locos are very good at slow running.  The Regner easy line locos have gearing that allows them to perform slowly as well.  Small Steam Performance, an Australian company makes an inertia device that can improve the slow speed performance of some Roundhouse products.


    • May 13, 2018 3:28 PM EDT

      Hi Scott,


      At time  1:40  there is a green 0-4-0T running at a nice slow speed.

      What is the loco and who is the manufacturer?

      Are there other examples of live steam locos that are capable to run at a slow speed?


      Thank you,



    • May 13, 2018 12:48 PM EDT
    • tac Foley,

      I am sorry I did not see this until today.  Thank you offering to help me.

      My solution is similar to what you mentioned.  I am having Roundhouse send a Lady Anne driving wheel to a machinist in the UK who is making the drivers I want.


    • May 6, 2018 4:27 PM EDT
    • Ric,   I'd like to know more about your ride-on VB locos. (I remember you recently got a CliShay)  Will some be 7.25 and some 7.5 or regaugable?   I'm thinking of a Plum Cove electric chassis on which I would build my own body.  The Silverado is a great choice and I know you liked riding in mine in Maine.  

      Since this is the internet and all have an opinion I think the Regner Willi and Chaloner would be the best choices.  Or if you go with Jason's loco you'd also gain exclusivity.  To my eye the outside hung cylinders of the Roy Wood (I've only seen it run on video) look strange when it wobbles down the track, of course to some that could be it's charm.  The Otto and Henry have smaller boilers and cylinders than the Willi.  The Brunel motor is quite tall in comparison to the rest of the loco but the price is right, though hasn't the pound come up in relation to the dollar since the Brexit scare has calmed a bit?  The Aster grasshopper only runs for 15 min.  I have a BAGRS converted to a gas fueled ceramic burner and it's a hoot despite being the messiest loco I've ever seen though you can't beat the whiring chains.  Parts to build one are harder to come by than they used to be.

      Please keep us in the loop as you make your choice.  I'll likely have my Willi bash (Steam In The Garden contest 2nd place) for sale but I think it is spoken for.  Almost forgot, also dredging up the past I have a Locomotion railbus which is also a vertical boiler and loosely based on a Sentinel steam vehicle.  I might be willing to sell it. 

    • May 6, 2018 10:09 AM EDT
    • I think all the vertical boiler engines have been covered although you can no longer get the Otto.  Regner also makes the Henry in kit form that is available and I believe the Train Dept has them in stock.  I did a review on it in Steam In The Garden.  Another option is the BAGRS project engine. It uses a midwest engine and boiler, I believe they no longer make.  But you can use any single cylinder and vertical boiler made as kits from Regner and you might be able to get some from Momad.  Cost would be about the same as a pre built one.  The Regner you cant go wrong with, great runners as well as the Roywood. 



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      Project engine with my own twist.  If you google the project engine their are many different ways people have done it.  


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    • May 6, 2018 8:07 AM EDT
    • Thanks Tom and Pete for the links and pictures.  Yes, we are talking around 1:20.3 or something that runs on the same track.  My interest in the ride on stuff has centered around the vertical boilers and now have 4 of them in different stages of construction and repair with 2 being operational.  Currently modifying a new 2018 Silverado "carrying case" to accommodate this obsession.  Its an interesting hobby in whatever scale.

    • May 5, 2018 5:51 PM EDT
    • Finally found the other vertical boiler unit - a model of the B&O Grasshopper (well, not a really good grasshopper, compared to the Aster version.  Which is also vertical boilered, btw.)


      Here's the Aster for comparison:



      Ministeam also sell this beauty:



      You can occasionally find the Mamods on eBay, but the MSS facility in the USA (think it used to be in NY) doesn't seem to exist any more.  I got mine from Dreamsteam in the UK.  It lists at 440GBP, but that includes 20% VAT which comes off for export.  So my price was 350GBP or $437 plus shipping.


      Re: Tom's note on 7/8ths scale.  You can see from the prototype photo that the Chaloner was a very small engine.  Notice the plate bolted on the side so the driver had somewhere to stand.  All the figures on my open locomotives are 7/8ths scale, and my Chaloner even has the plate on it for him to stand.  Otto has a 1:19th (UK scale) driver, as the roof is too low for a 7/8ths guy.



    • May 5, 2018 1:38 PM EDT
    • Hi Ric,

      I have 4 from 3 different manufacturers.  All have oscillating cylinders.

      Roy Wood in the UK makes a neat one with direct drive, so it is quite fast!  It's a model of a De Winton:



      I have 2 Regner vertical boiler locos.  "Otto" is an enclosed tram and is geared about 8:1.  Regner's get better as they get run in, and Otto, although only a single cylinder, will almost self start.



      "Charlie" (renamed from Chaloner) is a Regner 2-cylinder so it self starts.  Also geared about 8:1.



      Incidentally, the prototypes are still running at Wicksteed Park in the UK: "Taffy" and "Chaloner":



      Finally, I have a Mamod Brunel, which is single cylinder and geared 8:1, but has a decent ceramic burner with an easy-to-access jet, plus a proper lubricator, all for less than $500.



      Let's not forget the latest Regner, "Henry", which is vertical boilered.  Seems pretty similar to "Otto" but made of wood.

      There is one more that I'd like to get, a UK DeWinton kit from a manufacturer whose name escapes me - it has 2 cylinders in-line next to the boiler between the frames - more prototypical.  (Incidentally, not one of the models is actually prototypical - you need proper valve gear for that!  Maybe put a 2-cylinder Shay engine in one?)


      There is also at least one electric version, produced by PDF models, also in the UK.



      If you google Dewinton live steam, you'll find that Maxitrack make a 5" gauge version.

    • May 5, 2018 1:07 PM EDT
    • If you mean for Ga 1 then about the only choices are Regner Willi or Chaloner and Mamod Brunel.   I can speak personally to the Willi, Jerry Bohlander likes his Chaloner and Pete Thornton has a Brunel.

      Now if you want exclusivity, Jay Kovac is finishing up the third of three scratch built vertical boiler DeWintons upscaled to 7/8 from the 16mm Idris.  I have #2 and really like it.  Last Saturday we were doing a demo on my portable at a local feed store in the rain.  With it's ceramic burner and multi-tubed boiler by Justin Koch it lit easily, ran great and exhibited wonderful steam plumes.

      Contact Jason for the Regner products or his custom build.  I'm not sure where you order a Brunel.

      Now if you're talking about 1.5" scale, I'd be interested in that too since I'm a Big Boots and Western member thinking about moving up from 1:20 and 7/8.

    • May 5, 2018 8:32 AM EDT
    • I guess this question should be for Shawn or Tom Bowdler, but anyone else can join in.

      What is a good source and reliable company for a good vertical boiler steamer? 

      Just thinking and dreaming.

    • April 28, 2018 4:33 PM EDT
    • I see 5 cameras, but 4 of them are focused on scale figures and vehicles, don't show the layout at all (1, 2, 5, 6)


      You are using bandwidth for all 4 of them but not showing any of the trains running.


      Also, you should set the brightness of the single camera showing the layout, since it's pretty dark.


      Would love to enjoy it and see 5 times as much..



    • April 28, 2018 3:08 PM EDT
    • Hi everyone:


      Just a quick note about this steamup weekend. First, we finished the mainline at 8pm on Wed, and stayed till 4:30am (18hr day) to add steamup track to the yard loop.
      Stayed till 3am Thurs and completed one complete through yard track and some sidings. Finished a second through track yesterday afternoon during a lull
      in operations...whew...Jenn and I can barely stand.


      However, it has been great to see everyone, the track has performed near flawless given it was almost all untested.

      So lastly, the live at Stavers cameras are working, and you can see the action now and all day here...

      Live Staver spring steam up camera page

      Happy Steaming and I'll post more build story and pictures when we recover.