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engine type

Anyone have any info on this engine looks like a diesel in steam clothing, cylinders that are at 45 degrees and perpendicular to the boiler must be some type of geared engine, Just thought how easy to build and what a great yard engine it would make, Billyard engine

Well…

I thought it was just some dream a modeler came up with. But a quick Internet search came back with…

That has all the earmarkings of a shop built variation on a Heisler. Cylinder configguration is very typical Heisler

Im liking that bash! I have most of those parts to build an on30 version of it as well, hmmmm…

Bill Barnwell said:

Anyone have any info on this engine looks like a diesel in steam clothing

My french is more than a bit rusty but I believe this fella Lloyd built it with parts from his scrap bin!

http://us.leforum.eu/t5663-RIO-ALLOSIUS-MINING-CO-Part-2-Engines-rolling-stock.htm?start=1305

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Dan Gilchrist said:

Bill Barnwell said:

Anyone have any info on this engine looks like a diesel in steam clothing

My french is more than a bit rusty but I believe this fella Lloyd built it with parts from his scrap bin!

http://us.leforum.eu/t5663-RIO-ALLOSIUS-MINING-CO-Part-2-Engines-rolling-stock.htm?start=1305

Here’s the translated version

https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=fr&tl=en&u=http%3A%2F%2Fus.leforum.eu%2Ft5663-RIO-ALLOSIUS-MINING-CO-Part-2-Engines-rolling-stock.htm%3Fstart%3D1305

Your translate didn’t work for me, so I fed the following through babelfish.

Un châssis de trolley B’proot , caisse ayant servit à faire une 042 Porter Dummy.
Une chaudière de Shay B’proot, une ayant fini en vertical boiler.
Une cabine tender de Forney B’proot, provenance inconnu.

A trolley chassis , the body used to make a 042 Porter Dummy.
A boiler of Shay B’proot, one having ended up in vertical boiler.
A tender cabin by Forney B’proot, provenance inco

Un bloc cylindre Heisler Riva, qui fini en rail truck.
Cheminé, pilots, air pump, lanterne et autres, rab de pièces B’proot. Et un attelage PSC!
Quelques bouts de plastoc et bois…

A heisler Riva cylinder block, which ends up in rail truck.
Path, pilots, air pump, lantern and others, rab of parts B’proot.
And a PSC hitch! A few bits of plastoc and wood…

Pete I believe you are correct, neat looking little engine, thanks for the update, Bill

The mushroom stack is a Bachmann. I have one just like it in my “stack” junk box.

David Maynard said:

Well…

I thought it was just some dream a modeler came up with. But a quick Internet search came back with…

The Heisler section of Wikipedia says:

“TThere was one single-truck, narrow gauge Heisler built, Lake Shore Stone Products Co. #7 for the Lake Shore Stone Products Co…Lake Shore Stone Co., Milwaukee, Wisconsin”

So it really is a Heisler.

John Bouck said:

The mushroom stack is a Bachmann. I have one just like it in my “stack” junk box.

I think the “B’proot” in the translation means Bachmann ?

Pete, I was wondering if it was a Heisler built item, or something cobbled together in the railroad’s own shop. This takes us back to “there is a prototype for (nearly) everything.”

I’m not a big fan of Heislers, but that tiny Lake Shore loco sure is appealing!

There are some interesting creations here http://www.gearedsteam.com/

One example, http://www.gearedsteam.com/bell/bell.htm

… In this respect they were a fairly radical departure from conventional geared steam locomotive design of the time. Although the Bell line varied much in external design, they all shared some very unique features. Those included an enclosed power engine, boiler jackets wrapped with piano wire, boiler tubes through-out the boiler and steam area, lack of boiler crown sheet, a full steam-up time of only 20 minutes, and a reliance on only petroleum based liquid fuels.

Six Wheel Articulated
“Bell Oil-Burning Locomotive as illustrated may be had in 14, 15, 16, 17, 18 and 20 tons. Rear wheel articulated where curves are too severe for six-wheel connected locomotive”

The company also offered a smaller version (12 tons and less) of this type “designed for use on light rails with extremely sharp curves.”

I think the “B’proot” in the translation means Bachmann ? YES

It is a machine manufactured with organs of different machines and totally freelance

Ray Dunakin said:

I’m not a big fan of Heislers, but that tiny Lake Shore loco sure is appealing!

I was looking for a universal joint so I was scanning the Bachmann parts pages. You can buy the Heisler cylinder assembly complete. Should be a good place to start . . .