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    • August 16, 2017 8:19 PM EDT
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      Alan Thomas said:

      The next picture shows the progress I made on the underbody. 5 points to the person who can pick the error in my work!

       

       

       

      My Guess: You built it upside down...the brake assembly should face the ground.

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      Boomer

       

      These Bachmann connies are great but you gotta hit'em jusssst rightttt!

       

    • November 5, 2017 10:30 PM EST
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      Sorry all, life has just been getting in the way and I haven’t provided an update of late. Things are progressing slowly and of late I have been reviewing the 3D prints. Some needed a few tweaks and these changes have been made and an order of updated 3Ds sent off.

       

      This picture shows the truck without the journal lids or break shoes, but you get the idea. Also note there are bearings within the side frames to make the truck run nice and freely.

       

       

       

       

      Boomer you are bang on, I got the airline on the wrong side. Silly thing is I used a prototype drawing which gave the view from the top, not underneath, oops! I do surprise myself sometimes with this mistakes!

       

       

      Thanks

      Alan

      This post was edited by Alan Thomas at November 5, 2017 10:35 PM EST
    • November 8, 2017 6:51 AM EST
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      Al Pomeroy said:

      Alan,

       

      have been watching your progress, looks good. one thing to me that looks wrong with your brake rigging is that your brake cylinder seams awful small. if you send me a PM with your address I can send you a correctly scaled 1:20.3 Brake cylinder and maybe a couple of other trinkets that are not commercially available.

      Al P.

      Al

      I finally got round to measuring the break cylinder tonight, the casting I've used is from Hartford.

       

       

       

      Just to confuse things more, look at the below picture. The top brass casting is I think a Three Foot Classic which I assume 1:20.3, the middle is another Hartford casting from Ozark, but I think they have sent me the 1:24 casting instead of the 1:20.3 I ordered. Please note the middle casting is in two pieces and the 2nd piece isn't shown. Any thoughts on the prototypical size?

       

      Thanks

      Alan

       

       

      This post was edited by Alan Thomas at November 8, 2017 6:59 AM EST
    • November 8, 2017 7:35 AM EST
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      Alan,

       

      the Hartford Brake cylinder is an 8x12 in cylinder. the correct cylinder is a 10x12 variety, so a little bigger. not sure if the brass part is three foot or trackside miniatures but is closer to correct size. probably easer to send you a 3d model of the correct cylinder and have you print. send me a PM and I will do so. brake pipe should be 1-1/4" pipe so should be about .080 in dia., branch pipe should be 1" pipe or .060 in Dia.

       

      Al P.

    • April 9, 2018 8:07 AM EDT
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      Hi everyone, I haven’t been able to work or post about the project since Christmas time due to a few factors including an interstate move and a new job.

       

      Things are starting to settle down and I’ve unpacked my modelling bits and pieces. Time to dust off the project and get it moving again. I’ve made a number of minor updates the laser cutting 2D drawings and ordered another set of laser cuttings to verify the changes.

       

      The below picture is all the 3D printed masters ready to go to the foundry to make moulds for white metal castings

       

      I’m still working on the project and its starting to come together.

       

      20180409_210537.jpg (4.29 Mb)
      This post was edited by Alan Thomas at June 18, 2018 10:08 AM EDT
    • June 17, 2018 3:19 AM EDT
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      I had another set of flat car component laser cut after several updates to improve how it goes together. The below photos are some construction photos.

       

      At this stage I’m happy with the result and will start getting things together to sell the components so you can make sure own flat car.

       

      If you're interested in purchasing the items, please send me private message and we can exchange emails.

       

      Thanks

      Alan

       

       

       

       

       

      This post was edited by Alan Thomas at June 18, 2018 10:07 AM EDT
    • June 17, 2018 2:29 PM EDT
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      Are you plans to sell this as a kit?  Any idea on the pricing?

    • June 17, 2018 3:05 PM EDT
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      Chris Kieffer said:

      Are you plans to sell this as a kit?  Any idea on the pricing?

      As stated above:

      "If you're interested in purchasing the items, please send me private message and we can exchange emails."

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      The older I get, the less I know, please don't make me prove it.

       

       

    • June 17, 2018 6:01 PM EDT
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      Let's let the guy who I asked the question, answer it.    That saves a lot of trouble.

      This post was edited by Chris Kieffer at June 17, 2018 6:02 PM EDT
    • June 17, 2018 7:46 PM EDT
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      Alan Thomas said:

      I had another set of flat car component laser cut after several updates to improve how it goes together. The below photos are some construction photos.

       

      At this stage I’m happy with the result and will start getting things together to sell the components so you can make sure own flat car.

       

      If you're interested in purchasing the items, please send me private message and we can exchange emails.

       

      Thanks

      Alan

       

       

      Chris, I did quote the man...

       

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      The older I get, the less I know, please don't make me prove it.

       

       

    • June 17, 2018 8:06 PM EDT
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      From now on I will send my post to you for approval.

    • June 17, 2018 8:07 PM EDT
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      Sorry for any misunderstanding.

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      The older I get, the less I know, please don't make me prove it.

       

       

    • June 17, 2018 8:18 PM EDT
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      Yes I plan to sell the items as a sort of kit. I say sort of kit only because I will not box all the items in a nice box to save money due to logistics. The laser cut items and custom white metal castings will come from different supplies from different locations (Australia and USA) and I live in Australia. Most kits will be sold to the USA so if I ship all the items to me first and box it all up it will cost a fortune in shipping.

      To make your own flat car you need to purchase the following designed by me:

      • Laser cut styrene kit
      • Custom white metal castings not commercially available

      Others items to be sourced by you:

      • wheels
      • couplers
      • Tichy Train Group rivets
      • decals/paints/glues...
      • Other white metal castings from Ozark

      The ins and outs of how all the parts get to when an order is placed is what I'm sorting now.

      Hope this clears things up

      Alan

       

      This post was edited by Alan Thomas at June 19, 2018 5:49 PM EDT
    • June 17, 2018 9:04 PM EDT
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      Thanks, that makes a lot of sense how you are doing it.  I was wondering because you are correct, shipping it will cost more than the parts.   Do you have a cutter in the U.S. lined up?

       

      Thanks again,

      Chris

    • June 18, 2018 9:59 AM EDT
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      Welcome to the forum, Alan..     It's certainly a pleasure to see modelling skills being displayed and shared....  

       

      Thanks so very much for posting your work.  

      This post was edited by Stan Cedarleaf at June 19, 2018 5:48 PM EDT
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    • June 19, 2018 5:47 PM EDT
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      Thanks for the kind words Stan. 

       

      Chris, yes I do have someone lined up in the USA to cut the streyne components. He also cut the parts I've assembled above, the photos above represent what you would get if you decide to purchase a set yourself when the time comes.

       

      Thanks Alan

    • June 20, 2018 12:35 AM EDT
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      Very awesome.

       

      I did two renditions of 6500 series flats in 1:22.5 scale using USA Trains flats as the start.  Not prototypical, but then again 1:22.5 isn't either

       

      I had a posting years ago on how I did the kitbashes.  But the photo links don't work anymore so it is kind of useless.

       

      But here is what one looks like:

       

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    • July 7, 2018 2:47 PM EDT
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      Matt Doti said:

      I did two renditions of 6500 series flats in 1:22.5 scale using USA Trains flats as the start.  Not prototypical, but then again 1:22.5 isn't either ...

      ...here is what one looks like:

       

      Matt, what was your source for 1:22 tractors?  The 1:18 ones commonly available look too big and overhang the edges of my flat car decks.

       

      Dave

    • July 11, 2018 4:00 AM EDT
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      Hi Alan I'm interested in this kit, thanks Iain

      This post was edited by Iain Collingwood at July 19, 2018 1:14 AM EDT
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