Ray Dunakin said:
Greg Elmassian said:
Mark V.... calling people out on denying the truth is not bashing.
Aristo has denied almost every major issue they have had. If you don't know this, then either you woke up yesterday, or you cannot read.
If you need help finding the posts on the Aristo forum where Lewis denies any problems with slipping drivers, miswiring, wheel plating, I''ll be happy to give you the links.
This age old twisting of words, taking anything not complimentary to be "bashing" just does not wash.
Do you actually own any Aristo products, and if so can you honestly say you have NEVER seen any of these issues so vehemently denied?
I thought this topic was the rumors of AC going out of business. Those other things are separate issues.
And why does anyone care what "story" AC gives about it? Either they'll stay in business, or they'll fold, just like any other business. (And I don't see any hobby manufacturers thriving in this crappy economy.) Why the need for all this mudslinging and speculation?
Ray, part of the concern is for the very FUTURE of the hobby, when EPL crashed and then took 3 full years to re-enter the market , no one at the time realized what a negative impact that timespan could have on the scale, the loss of LGB as a brand had a profoundly negative effect on the scale in general, even with Bmann USA AC and even Piko trying to fill the gap, the Great Recession, the China huge price increases, the loss of track for a long spell and the seemingly never ending QC issues with Bmann and AC gave the perception that all was not well in the LS universe, that alone spooked quite alot of potential newbies to take up fishing instead.
Even now Marklin/LGB is nowhere anywhere near the presence it was before the crash, high prices are still scaring away a great many more people than you might realize, and now we have AC treading water and its very very easy to see why alot of us are very pessimistic about where our chosen gauge may be heading.
I dunno, its truly a sad time in general when GR can't find advertisers like it could just 5 years ago, If, and only an IF, AC does sell out or go under its safe to assume it could be, like EPL, 2-3 years before we see any new stock imported by a new owner. Hopefully they will find a way around all this but its clear to anyone whos been paying attention that their current business model simply does not appear to be working.